Some problems from the Long Beach Sectional 11/2000

Today's panelists: Andy Lewis, Barry Rigal, Dan Molochko, Ed Davis, Joanna Stansby, Kent Hartman, Lynn Johannsen, Mike Shuster, Rolf Kühn, Walter Hamilton, Robb Gordon, Bobby Bodenheimer, Brian Oxley

Sorry for not mentioning the conditions. They were IMPs, short matches. I didn't think they mattered, but I simply forgot to mention them.

  1. none vul, you deal yourself

     S:H:9 D:AKQ10xxxx C:Jxxx

    What action do you take?


    ANDY
    3N gambling, if we are playing it. I know it's sick with such extreme shape, but I don't really expect to have an intelligent auction with this hand in any case. (I open 1D:, partner bids 1 of a major, and I ???) If not playing gambling 3N, choices seem to be 1D:, 5D:, or pass hoping to find a clue of what to do later. I could be convinced either way between 1 and 5, depending partly on form of scoring, which you neglected to give (how's that for a cop out?).
    BARRY
    5D:. no bid really describes the hand and a gambling 3NT should not be such extreme distribution. so I'll preempt CHO as the price of catching two other opponents.
    DAN
    5D:. This is the bid I make at IMP's or at MP's against good competition. Maximum pressure, 2 opponents to mess with and only one partner, the usual yada-yada. A much more interesting problem if it's random Regional MP's or something; I think I like opening 1C: to see if I have a big fit there (if not, I'll hope to pass some forcing bid to expose my psyche, then guess the right level at which to bid diamonds, or not
    ED
    I think 5D: is the long-term winner. It loses when a slower approach allows us to reach a biddable and makeable slam but makes the opponents guess what to do at the five-level where the consequences of a wrong guess can be very costly.
    JOANNA
    5D:
    KENT
    3NT. I play this shows a solid minor with no outside ace or king, so this is basically textbook.
    LYNN
    Who knows? I can't bid 3NT in my own methods, so I think I'd take a shot at 5D:. 1D: could work beautifully, if the auction works out just right for you, but I've never had much luck with that kind of approach. Being at the table would help here.
    MIKE
    After careful consideration, I vote for 5D:. I'm probably going to have to bid 5D: anyway, but by bidding it now, I will show partner a bunch of diamond tricks - if he has a strong hand, it may become much easier for us to get to slam. Obviously if he has  S:xxx H:AKxx D:xx C:AKxx we make 6D: and he should probably bid it and if he has  S:AKxx H:AKxx D:xx C:xxx we make 4D: and we will still be in 6, but them's the breaks.
    ROBB
    5D:. I don't think I am going to wait for the magic 3NT where they can't save. [Good point. If we make 3NT, they probably can bid at the 4-level anyway. --Jeff]
    ROLF
    Nobody knows anything. So I take my guess and bid 5D:.
    WALTER
    IMPS 5D:, MP 3NT
    BOBBY
    I wonder what the form of scoring is. In any event, I make the traditional bid of 5D:. It has the advantage that it's descriptive for partner, and makes it really hard for the opponents to find their major suit game or slam. Partner probably has  S:AKQxxxxx H:D:Jx C:xxx and opps take the first three club tricks. Oh well.
    BINKLEY
    I'll open the dull, traditional 5D:. I can understand some arguing for 4D: on the theory that the majors break badly for the opponents or that partner has a stack of them. Some people may screw around, but I've seen far too few of these sort of hands to try that myself.
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    wasn't there. 3NT looked obvious until partner pointed out that he had 8410, at which point I shut up, but wondered why 5D: didn't occur to him, as that also seemed obvious. He chose to bid 1D:, arguing that he had too much shape for 3NT. Therefore, he should bid more, not less, right? I didn't know how to say that nicely, so shutting up seemed prudent.
    VOTES
    5D:12
    3NT2
    WINNING ACTION
    5D:. The pressure bid works. LHO has a very good 2515 and RHO has a moderate 6421. Their last making spot is 5H:. It's real tough to get there after the opponents opened 5D:, and at one table, in fact, they reached 5S:, going down.
    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    OK, this was obvious. I thought there'd be a fairly strong vote for 3NT and maybe someone for 1D:, but I guess not. It was not time to get creative.

  2. none vul, you hold

     S:9xxx H:10xx D:AQ C:AKxx

    You LHO CHI RHO
    1C: 1H: Pass2H:
    Pass3H: 3NT Pass
    ?

    a) What is that idiot doing?


    ANDY
    Partner thought he had a trap pass of 1H:, but has now discovered that he had the D:KJTx in with his H:A. Alternatively, he has a weak but shapely hand with both minors, either very weak or with only 3 clubs, given the failure to bid 2C: at his previous turn.
    BARRY
    It has to be minors.
    DAN
     S:xx H:x D:Kxxxxx C:xxxx.
    ED
    Partner has a weak hand with diamonds and clubs with probably two more diamonds than clubs. Some hands that would qualify are  S:x H:x D:JTxxxxxx C:Qxxx,  S:x H:D:Jxxxxxx C:Jxxxx or  S:x H:x D:Kxxxxx C:xxxxx. Partner could also have 6-4 distribution although he would then have had sufficient high card strength to raise to 2C: (if not playing inverted raises in competition [Are those playable??? --Jeff]), e.g.,  S:xx H:x D:Kxxxxx C:QJxx.
    JOANNA
    Assuming partner called correctly with 'pass' the first time, this must show a weak hand with 4 clubs and 6+diamonds.
    LYNN
    The idiot ought to hold something like  S:x H:x D:Kxxxxx C:Qxxxx or perhaps 7-4 in the minors. It isn't my style to pass over 1H: with that kind of hand, but if he had a zero count the opponents would probably have bid a game.
    MIKE
    3NT is certainly an unusual bid to say the least. Partner does not have spades (no negative double) does not have hearts (no penalty double) does not have a good hand with a heart stopper (no previous NT bid)... so when you remove the impossible, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truth. I expect partner has a weak hand with the minors, at least 5-4, perhaps 6-4.
    ROBB
    Guess he has a zillion minor suit cards with no hand. Not sure why he didn't preempt in the first place unless he is 7-4 or something odd like that.
    ROLF
    Sounds totally reasonable to me. Pard is weak and holds 6+-4+ in D: and C:.
    WALTER
    Maybe CHI is 2164 (especially if 3D: initially would not be a weak jump shift) My guess is  S:Kx H:x D:KJxxxx C:Qxxx
    BOBBY
    Clearly, partner mis-sorted his hand and only discovered his mistake on the second round of bidding. I guess the next best explanation is that partner made a penalty pass first round but lost his nerve after discovering the opponents had a fit.
    BINKLEY
    Could he be 6-5 in minors, say  S:x H:x D:Kxxxxx C:Jxxxx and unwilling to speak first round?
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    It's obviously minors, but how many in each? The hand has to have enough playing strength to push to the four-level, yet didn't raise clubs immediately. With a preemptive club raise available and with a natural 2C: raise available, partner can't have four clubs now, I think. That ought to mean he's 7-3 in the minors, as he'd bid (perhaps via a negative double) spades with 4 the first time. Moreover, I think he shouldn't have three very good spades, because he didn't bid 3S: now. It seems to me that he's a good bet for 2173 shape. He might be 2164 with crummy clubs and OK diamonds, say  S:xx H:x D:KJ10xxx C:xxxx. If our diamonds were not so good, I'd think he has 6-4 more often, but we have the D:AQ. Anyway, he's something like that.

    Is anyone here going to figure out what that idiot was doing if he had bid 3S:? I might now, but wouldn't've a couple of weeks ago. Probably still wouldn't.


    b) What now?
    ANDY
    Something like  S:x H:x D:Kxxxxxxx C:Qxx is enough to make game, but opposite  S:xx H:x D:Kxxxxx C:xxxx even 4 is too much (though better than defending the cold 3H: of course). At IMPs, partner rates to have some values, and the upside of bidding game is big, so I will try 5D:. At MPs, partner is more likely to be competing psychotically for the partscore, so I'll bid only 4D:.
    BARRY
    I bid 4C:. Yes I can't visualize the shape but maybe 1-3-5-4 in abstract (tough with my holding 3H: but who knows?)
    DAN
    4C:. 3H: was a game try. My partner's not an idiot!
    ED
    It looks like the opponents have a game and we probably can make ten or eleven tricks with ten tricks more likely. It will usually be right to play in partner's long diamond suit so I would bid 4D: and be willing for the auction to die there. If the opponents bid 4H:, I will bid 5C: in case partner is 6-5.
    JOANNA
    do we play weak jump shifts is comp? [No. --Jeff] if so, I would expect partner to make one with K 7th of D and 4 clubs, so I expect he has 3 major suit losers (with S:Kx and D:K he would have raised clubs the first time in some fashion.) If we are not playing WJS in comp, then I would still expect partner to raise clubs in some way the first time if he has only 2 cards in the majors. Assuming partner is 6-4 then which suit will play better? The defense will start by cashing their major suit winners, then tapping partner. That makes it look pretty clear to play in diamonds so

    I bid 4D:.

    KENT
    My first response was pass, but decided that he doesn't have heart length for a trap pass and if he is looking at an opener with H:AQ, he would have found a call on the previous round. I assume this shows at least 6-4 in the minors, maybe 7-4, since with 5+ clubs and a string of diamonds, I would have expected a club raise on the first round. I'll bid 4D:, as I may have trouble getting to his hand in clubs after heart-heart.
    LYNN
    Since he could have two spades (or even two hearts), I'll bid 5C:. If we can't make it, the odds are that it's a good save. 4NT might be better, but I'd rather reserve that for hands that are 3-4 or 3-3 in the minors. With 4-2, I'll take my own preference. (If I could arrange to play clubs from partner's side, 4NT would have greater appeal)

    I have a nervous feeling that he might have spades, but I don't think I can afford to allow for that. Anyway, I think it is such losing tactics to pass over 1H: holding great spade length that I'm willing to punish partner for doing it. At worst, he'll have to play 5S: (he knows I can't have very long clubs, and therefore should not pass 5C: if he doesn't hold the suit himself).

    MIKE
    I seem to notice a lack of defense against 4H:. I just bid 4C:. 5C: is possible, but almost surely down 1. I am prepared to bid 4NT if either opponent bids 4H: (take THAT, partner!)
    ROBB
    I will bid 4NT and let him pick his poison.
    ROLF
    Here it's better to make the long trumps declarer. So I bid 4D: and hope for the best.
    WALTER
    4N. Show partner you can share the joke
    BOBBY
    I like to play that in the absence of agreement strange bids are natural. So I assume pard thinks he can make 3NT. I have my bids, so I leave him there.
    BINKLEY
    5C:, hoping I have a clue.
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    wasn't there, but I think 4D: is right. Partner passed.
    VOTES
    4D:6
    4C:3
    4NT2
    5C:2
    Pass1
    WINNING ACTION
    4D: or 4NT. Partner was underbidding a little the first time with  S:AQx H:D:J765432 C:QJx. Most would bid 2D: immediately, but I decided to hang in the bushes and try to show more of my hand later. I chickened out and didn't bid 3S:, figuring that was recipe for disaster, but if partner held  S:KJ10x H:xxxx D:x C:AK10x, wouldn't that sequence get us to a great 4S:? Most of the time, it'd get me to some stupid contract (like 4S: this time, as they railed 5-1), so I only bid 3NT. Partner passed. -150. 5D: is making. If partner had chosen 4D:, I would have raised gently. (Sorry, no cue—it's another chance at disaster.)
    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    This one was "partner got creative. Do you hang him?" Most of the panel got it right. As a group, however, they didn't seem very sure, so I think the 3S: "master bid" would have been sure to blow up in my face. In reality, 3NT blew up in my face. Next time, I'll start with 2D:.

    Which is an interesting point. I like the delayed bid. The more they bid, the shorter partner is in hearts. If he doesn't hammer them (they have to bid 4H: for his double to be business, right?), then it seems very safe for me to bid as high as the five-level. Starting with 2D: will never let me show clubs or spades, so I like the slow route. And maybe I'll learn something that will tell me to shut up. (E.g. LHO bids 1NT, partner passes, and RHO bids 2D:.) In general, I'm not a big fan of the Al Roth "if I get through this round" plan, but it seemed like it had a lot going for it this time. No one agrees with me.


  3. both vul, you hold

     S:AKJ10 H:A9x D:Axx C:K8x

    Three passes to you.


    ANDY
    1C:. The obvious choices are 1C:, 1S: and 2N. I'm a big fan of opening 1S: on good 4-baggers in 3rd and 4th chair, but only when I want to play in the suit. Here, the structure of the high cards in the side suits might suggest a suit contract, but that is more than made up for by the 4x3 shape. With a moysian fit (or even some 4-4 fits) we will usually be better off in NT. Also a 1S: opening will often wrongside our NT contract. That leaves it between 1C: and 2N. K&R likes the aces, and calls this 19.9, so many will judge it to be worth 2N. I don't think it's that spectacular, so I'll settle for the pedestrian 1C: bid, planning to bid 2N at my next turn.
    BARRY
    1C:. No reason to get brilliant—1S: or 2NT might work but this hand might play better from partner's side!
    DAN
    1S:, of course. You're trying to get me to open 2NT with a 19-count again, aren't you? [I can't put anything by Dan! --Jeff] I don't play Drury, so 1S: works well; I can raise partner's natural responses, and when she responds 1NT it actually means something. If I'm saddled (albatrossed?) with Drury (or worse, Double Drury) then I guess 2NT might even be right, but I sure hate it with 4=3=3=3 shape and overwhelmingly suited texture.
    ED
    1C:. This is a tradeoff between opening 1C: and 2NT. 1C: gives us the room to bid more accurately as well as possibly stay lower but it allows the opponents to get a bid in and also hear our bidding which should help them on the opening lead. 2NT is slightly short on values but it could be the tactical winner. Since this hand would probably be a good dummy for any kind of distributional hand partner might have, I prefer to start with 1C:.
    JOANNA
    2NT. Playing 20-21 I don't even consider this a stretch because of the spade ten with 3 higher honors and controls in all the suits. Granted the 4333 is a negative but doesn't override the plusses. Besides, it might be very important to get our heart game played from the right side here.
    KENT
    I'll open 2NT and accept any suit slam invitation.
    LYNN
    My 2NT range in this position is roughly 21-22, so I'm not inclined to do that. Anyway, none of the best reasons to shade a 2NT opening (to reach a good slam based on controls and fit, to preempt the opponents, to ensure getting to game on a hand with good trick-taking potential) applies here. If partner weren't a passed hand, I might open 2NT because of my good controls. Here I'd open 1C:, partly to be able to play spades from partner's side in some cases. I could be persuaded that 1S: is a better bid, hoping for the continuation 1NT-3NT. I really don't think there is much to choose among the three reasonable actions.
    MIKE
    This hand could play VERY well in a 4-3 spade fit. At the risk of wrong-siding 3NT, I open 1S: and over partners 1NT, bid 2NT. [I think 2NT goes up to about an average-minus 19-count, and I think this is at least a "pretty good" 19, so I think I'd try 3NT (or 3C: if 3NT shows long spades). But others have different ranges. --Jeff] 2nd choice is opening 2NT, 3rd 1C:.
    ROBB
    1C:. Am I supposed to do something clever?
    ROLF
    I don't have enough tricks for 3NT, so I simply bid 1C:.
    WALTER
    1C:. You are 4333.
    BOBBY
    Possible bids are 2NT, 1C:, and I suppose 1S:. I don't see any reason to bid 1S: though. I'm very close to opening this 2NT—I like my values but not my shape. So I'll open 1C:.
    BINKLEY
    1C:, normal opening. Why not? If I should have done something else, that's just bad luck.
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    1S:. Partner raised to 2S:, I bid 3NT, and he passed. 3NT wasn't hopeless, but failed a trick when most of the cards were offside.
    VOTES
    1C:9
    1S:3
    2NT2
    WINNING ACTION
    none. Partner has  S:xxxx H:KJ D:Qxx C:Jxxx. The best game is 3NT from partner's side, but I don't see a way to get there. 4S: is hopeless; spades are Q98x offside. Stopping short of a vul game at IMPs with 26 HCP isn't an option.
    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    This is another "do you get creative?" I did, and I shall again. I think 1S: has so much going for it that it's a clear choice. Notrump should be played from partner's side. If partner has S:Qxx and any doubleton, we probably want to be in spades. The only likely loss as I see it is that 1S: could get us to spades from my side, which is also inferior. But it'll help get us to the right strain a lot and get to the right side when we are playing notrump nearly always.

    I think Dan is mistaken about Drury in this case. Playing Drury means that partner will bid 1NT more often than he would otherwise. That's good—my goal was to get him to bid 1NT so that I could raise. My style is to raise to 3NT as I have more than a poor 19, but some could raise to 2NT showing a great 18 or any 19. Doesn't matter this time.


THE THEME
Andy asked if there was a theme. I said, "no," before, but I guess there is. The hands were so boring from my point of view all day that the only "decisions" were "do I get creative?" In practice, it would have worked well once if partner had read it. Mostly, it didn't matter. Oh, well. I hate it when I'm dealt out of the whole day.
Jeff Goldsmith, jeff@gg.caltech.edu, November 23rd, 2000