Problems from the Downey Sectional 1/03: Answers

Today's Panelists: Barry Rigal, Chris Willenken, David Caprera, Michael Schreiber, David Weiss, Ed Davis, Joel Wooldridge, Brian Oxley, Mike Shuster, Bob Thomson, Bobby Bodenheimer, Mark Bartusek, Floyd McWilliams, Marshall Miles
  1. None vul, IMPs, 10-board matches

     S:K10x H:AQ D:Q109 C:J1076x

    You LHO CHO RHO
    1C: 2S: Dbl 3S:
    PassPassDbl Pass
    ?


    BARRY
    Pass. LOTT suggests eight (9) spades for them, and 8 (9) clubs for you. The only issue is if they will make 3S:* and 4C: is a save. I say no. We have the balance and our HCP in short suits; defend... [Whether 3S: will make is a major issue! --Jeff]
    CHRIS
    Pass. A random problem in that they could easily make it or be down two (three if they're lunatics or very unlucky). However, three notrump is a gigantic underdog due to my weak clubs. Where will eight fast tricks come from after a spade lead? So, the only viable alternative to passing is 4C:, and my feeling is that 4C: is virtually certain to drive us minus; when we can make four, partner will bid five. Thus, I pass and hope to go plus. [If they can "easily make it," isn't passing maniacal? Perhaps "easy" was an overbid. --Jeff]
    DAVIDC
    I can't imagine not passing. And if it makes 3NT, I don't care.
    MICHAEL
    4D:. They might make 3S:x. It's too risky to pass.
    DAVIDW
    The choice is between 3NT and Pass. Neither option is appealing, since we have no assurance of a set and no guarantee that I can take nine tricks. However, since I must do something, I will try 3NT. Hamman's rule is easy to justify. If I go down, it will be in 50s. If they make 3S: doubled, the match may be in severe jeopardy.
    ED
    Pass. Not much of a problem in my opinion. Partner's double shows high cards with no long suit. With sufficient values, partner will double with two spades but will sometimes bid a suit with only one spade. I have reasonable defense including a possible trump trick (probable if we don't have to lead trumps). 3NT seems against the odds with only one stopper and a poor 5-card suit.
    JOEL
    Pass—automatic.
    BINKLEY
    3NT. I trust that partner has something nice over there. Does pass collect a telephone number? This is the kind of hand that reflects poorly on my rustiness.
    MIKE
    Pass. I have surprisingly good trumps given partner's double. They are probably in a 5-2 fit. I suppose if you think partner might have a stiff trump, 3NT is possible, but so long as RHO has an intermediate spade honor, I'll need 9 fast tricks. Good here.
    BOB
    Pass. Yes, I know that -530 is a bad result; so is -500. What few assets I have are mostly defensive. Partner's second double is still for takeout, but he will not be surprised when I leave it in.
    BOBBY
    3S:x and 3NT don't look to be happy places. I think I have a definite preference to play the hand, so I bid 4C:.
    MARK
    Pass...seems clear-cut to collect +300 instead of attempting a shaky game. I can't see where 9 tricks are coming from, and I probably won't be able to shut out LHO's spades before knocking out a stopper in RHO's hand.
    FLOYD
    Pass is tempting, but if the opponents have their bids we might need the right lead to beat 3S:. I bid 3NT.
    MARSHALL
    I agree with your pass.
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    Pass. 3NT looks far away and a suit contract is shooting in the dark.
    VOTES
    ActionVotes
    Pass10
    3NT3
    4C:1
    4D:1
    WINNING ACTION
    Pass. Partner has  S:x H:xxxx D:AKxxx C:A9x. 4D: will make, but 3NT is down. In any case, they are set 500.
    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    I don't see how the Law of Total Tricks applies here. The questions are:
    • is 3S:x going down? and
    • are we making 3NT?
    LTT doesn't answer those questions or even give us a good hint about them. My guesses are 3S: is going down > 90% of the time. 3NT is making some of the time. I have no idea how often. In this case, it took a bad break in diamonds to beat 3NT. (One can make it, of course, but it's a little double-dummy.) On the auction, some bad breaks seem likely.

    I thought pass was pretty obvious, but the first few folks I gave this problem bid, so ...


  2. None vul, IMPs, 10-board matches

     S:AKJxx H:J D:Qxxx C:QJx

    You CHO
    1S: 2H:
    2S: 3D:
    ?


    BARRY
    3NT. Some case for 3H:—but if I do that would not partner raise hearts with six bad hearts not look for spades with  S:Qx H:Kxxxxx D:AKx C:Kx? I'd like to have a different sort of club stop to bypass it. But if 3NT were right you would not set the problem. [No fair trying out outguess the problem setter! --Jeff] The real advantage of 3H: is it lets partner bid 3S:. Then... 3NT by me anyway?
    CHRIS
    3H:. Where do we want to play opposite

     S:x H:KQxxxx D:AKxx C:xx?
     S:Qx H:AKxxx D:KJxx C:xx?
     S:x H:KQxxx D:AJxxx C:Kx?
     S:x H:AQxxx D:AKxxx C:xx?

    That's right: 4H:, 4S:, 3NT, and 5D: respectively. 3H: should get us to the right contract on each of these hands (partner bids 4H:, 3S:, 3NT, and 4D: respectively). I don't expect much (any?) panel support, but I much prefer 3H: to the unilateral 3NT or 4D:. When in doubt, make the cheapest bid.

    DAVIDC
    3NT. I take the low road. It just looks too soft to go high.
    DAVIDW
    Again there are two choices, one of which is 3NT. Although I hate to suppress 4-card support for partner, I have only a queen and a probably irrelevant jack in his suits. So Hamman and I are in 3NT again.
    ED
    3NT. This is a toss-up. 3NT has a slight advantage over 4D: in that we can still get to a diamond game or slam if partner is quite distributional or very strong whereas 4D: would keep us from reaching the most reasonable game opposite something along the lines of  S:x H:AKxxx D:AJxx C:xxx.
    JOEL
    4D:—partner wants me to raise with diamonds; well, I have diamonds. Could easily be the only way to get to slam when partner has something like  S:x H:KQxxxx D:AKJx C:Ax. If he has  S:x H:AQxxxx D:AKxx C:xx, I think 3H: is a better bid. And if he has  S:x H:AQxxx D:AKxxx C:xx, maybe we'll make 5D:, also. But if he has  S:x H:AKQxx D:Axxxx C:xx, better luck next time.
    BINKLEY
    4D:. I was going to write about a clever 3S: bid revealing club duplication if partner rebids 3NT over it, and me bidding in diamonds otherwise, but the direct bid appeals to me. And 4D: is the best way to reach 6D:. It would be nice to be able to play 4NT after my raise, but I don't know how to accomplish that without one of us wondering if we just passed an ace-asking bid.
    MIKE
    3NT. Almost all my strength is in the black suits. If partner moves over this I'll cooperate.
    MICHAEL
    4D:. What's the problem?
    BOB
    3NT. I am not giving up on slam, but I have just enough misgivings not to raise to the four-level. The diamonds aren't very good and the hands don't seem to fit well. If partner bids again, I am very well placed.
    BOBBY
    3NT seems like a reasonable game. It's also a minimal and uncooperative bid. That's what I want to be on this hand. 4D: seems too much of an overbid.
    MARK
    3NT...You should have stated the system being used because 3NT is more attractive when playing Standard American. 2/1 GF practically guarantees 4+ diamonds while SA doesn't. [Not true. See the examples above. --Jeff] I would probably still bid 3NT playing 2/1 because of the slowness of the club stoppers and the quick tricks in spades. Admittedly a 4D: raise could be right playing 2/1 GF (perhaps even a 3H: preference).

    [For what it's worth, the standard here is to assume playing any reasonably common modern system of your preference. Old Standard American where 2S: isn't forcing, however, isn't one of those options. Panelists should feel free to comment on system issues which apply, but simple plumping for, say, a big club system, is generally not particularly interesting, so please don't. Comments like, "I play 3C: here as a relay so my 3D: bid guarantees four. The consequences of that are..." are quite welcome. Often, I'll ask for more details, though, so be ready to supply them! --Jeff]

    FLOYD
    3NT. Too weak and junky for 4D:. Partner has some clubs; if not he has spades and would have bid them, or is mostly red and will bid out.
    MARSHALL
    I don't have any opinion as to whether 3NT or 4D: is right (theoretically). Your 4D: bid certainly worked out well. Maybe if you bid 3NT, I would bid 4NT, and if so, you would jump to 6D:.
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    4D:.
    VOTES
    ActionVotes
    3H:1
    3NT9
    4D:4
    WINNING ACTION
    4D:. Partner is about to drive to slam with an 18-count:  S:10x H:A10xxx D:AK10x C:AK. Diamonds makes, but notrump doesn't, a trifle unluckily.
    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    Raising what could be a stopper is a very risky choice, of course, but partner is either worried about clubs for 3NT, in which case I am too and want to play a major-suit game, or he has real diamonds, in which case, I am willing to play diamonds, particularly if he is short in clubs. 4D: is a little more constructive than 3NT, which isn't good on my misfitting dogmeat. On the other hand, I'm really not all that excited about 3NT. I have one club stopper and no source of tricks. But bidding 4D: now buries NT below the slam level and I do have a crappy hand. I think it's a toss-up. Still. What's worse, two of my favorite rules conflict:
    1. when in doubt, raise partner.
    2. when in doubt, bid 3NT.
    Too bad partner didn't bid notrump.

    3H: is interesting, but knowing that I'd bid 4H: over 3H: a lot and be totally shocked by dummy, I can't accept it as right. I'm just not into 5-1 fits. Yeah, this one might even be right. Too bad.

    Over 4D:, 4H: and 4S: are offers to play, and 5C: is an artificial slam try, being that it is the only cooperative slam try we have available. That means we can play game in either major. I'd really like to play this in 4S: vs. a doubleton, so I can live with this choice.


  3. Both vul, IMPs, 10-board matches

     S:10xxx H:K9xx D:Axxx C:10

    Partner opens 1NT, 15-17. What's your plan?
    What would be your plan at matchpoints?


    BARRY
    Stayman and bid 2H: over 2D: at each form of scoring and raise 2M to 4M at teams (who knows whether partner's minimum with C:Axx is better than the max with C:KQx? At pairs I think I'd do the same though I can see excellent cases for passing 2H: or raising to 3H:—the latter being the middle course and probably the right one on reflection.
    CHRIS
    2C:, planning to pass 2D: or raise a major. I'd raise 2S: to three at matchpoints; the rest of the time I'd raise to game.

    I could be convinced that raising 2S: to three at pairs is too conservative, but I imagine that I will be ahead of four groups by doing so:

    1. Idiots who pass 1NT. Yes, there are some. In fact, one player with whom I finished in the top ten of a national matchpoint event did so playing with me.
    2. Idiots who pass 2S:. I'm sure there will be some of those with "only seven points."
    3. Weak notrumpers who bury the spades after 1C:-1H:-1NT (not denying spades)
    4. People who choose the same plan and don't take as many tricks as I do.
    So, game needs to be far greater than 50% opposite a minimum notrump to be worth bidding, and I would guess that it's right around the 50% mark (lower with perfect defense, but who ever gets perfect defense?).

    [Excellent reasoning. Bizarre conclusion. That's a very forceful argument for passing 2S:! --Jeff]

    DAVIDC
    Ok, you talked me into it, but only vul at IMPs. 2C:, raise a major or rebid 2NT. At matchpoints, I pass 1NT.
    DAVIDW
    Since I will raise a major to game, I had better bid 2C:. If he bids 2D:, I have to guess whether to pass (my choice) or bid 2H:. I will not inflict 2NT on partner. I would follow the same plan at matchpoints, although there is some temptation to simply pass 1NT.
    ED
    [IMPs:] Stayman and pass 2D: and raise 2H: or 2S:.
    [MPs: ] Stayman and pass partner's response. But bid 2H: over 2D: if 2H: [can be] a weak 4-4.
    JOEL
    [IMPs:] 2C:, then raise partner's 2M bid to 3. Otherwise, pass 2D:.
    [MPs: ] 2C:, then pass partner's 2M bid. Otherwise, pass 2D:.
    BINKLEY
    Pass. Pass.
    MIKE
    2C: at either form of scoring. At MPs, I correct 2D: to 2H:, at IMPs I pass 2D:. If partner bids a major, I'd pass at MPs and raise at IMPs (to 3 opposite spades and to 4 opposite hearts). Strange that I'd just bid game at IMPs and quietly pass at MPs. I must be weird. [Yes, but I think you got this one exactly right. --Jeff]
    MICHEAL
    2C:, then 2H: over 2D: at MP but pass at IMPs. Over 2H: or 2S:, I'd raise.
    BOB
    I plan to pass when it's my turn. I don't think it's a very interesting question at IMPs. At matchpoints I would also pass, but it's a tossup. I have a decent hand with pretty good spots. Why should I risk making partner play a 2-4 fit? Sure, sometimes it'll make 140 in a major. On some of those hands, the defense will allow my partner to make 150 in 1NT.
    BOBBY
    Stayman, and invite if partner has a 4-card major, pass if partner bids 2D:. I think my strategy would be the same at matchpoints.
    MARK
    2C:...I intend to pass partner's 2D: or 2S: response. I will raise a 2H: response to 3H: to avoid missing a game at all conditions of contest because I can upgrade my heart holding.
    FLOYD
    [IMPs:] Stayman, then pass 2D:. Raise 2H: or 2S: to game.
    [MPs:] The same, except I raise 2S: to 3.
    MARSHALL
    Stayman, intending, either at IMPs or matchpoints, to pass 2S: or 2D:, and to raise 2H: to 3H:.
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    2C:, then raised 2H: to 3H:. If partner had bid anything else, I would have passed. At matchpoints, I would bid 2C:, then if partner bid 2D:, try 2H:. If partner bid a major, I would pass.
    VOTES
    ActionIMPsMPs
    Pass23
    2C:, then over 2D:
    Pass117
    2H:15
    2NT10
    2C:, then over 2H:
    Pass04
    3H:85
    4H:53
    2C:, then over 2S:
    Pass36
    3S:65
    4S:41
    WINNING ACTION
    2C:, and raise 2H:. Or even bid more than that. Partner made six on two finesses and no trump lead with  S:AQ H:AQ10x D:QJ C:Qxxxx.
    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    The overbidders have talked me into it. At IMPs, I like raising 2H: to game, not to three. And I'm now convinced that raising 2S: to 3S: is right, too. At MPs, I'm certain that the right plan is to bid 2C: and pass a major. You get poor odds by raising. Chris' arguments for bidding 3S: vs. 4S: are wonderful arguments for passing 2S:. Since we know there'll be folks in 1NT, we are starting with a 65% or 70% board by having found hearts and having a strong declarer play it. Game isn't going to be 70%, so bidding reduces our expectation on the board.

    I've become convinced that at MPs, I should bid 2H: over 2D:. The same reasoning applies as to passing 2S:. 2D: is going to lose to those in 1NT. 2H: might or might not be better than 2D:. But it might also be better than 1NT. So bidding 2H: is the percentage bid, I think. At MPs. At IMPs, 2D: rates to be safer. So, upon reflection, I like:

    IMPs: 2C:, then over:
    2D:: pass
    2H:: 4H:
    2S:: 3S:
    MPs: 2C:, then over:
    2D:: 2H:
    2H:: pass
    2S:: pass
    This was a more interesting problem than I thought it would be. It didn't occur to me at the table to raise all the way to game.


Jeff Goldsmith, jeff@gg.caltech.edu, Jan. 14, 2003