Some Problems from the Denver Nationals, 11/05

Today's Panelists: Barry Rigal, David Weiss, David Caprera, Mike Shuster, Ed Davis, Len Vishnevsky, Kent Hartman, Marshall Miles, Bobby Bodenheimer, David Milton
  1. unfavorable, IMPs, short matches

     S:AKx H:AKxx D:AKx C:AKx

    A mittful.

    LHO CHO RHO You
    PassPass2D:* Dbl*
    2S:* PassPassDbl*
    Pass3H: Pass?

    2D: was Multi. The first double was 13-15 or any strong hand (ACBL defense #2). 2S: was pass or correct. The second double is 18+. The ACBL defense does not include Lebensohl in this auction (why not?). [It turns out that the ACBL defense does include Lebensohl, but the note to that effect is not on the same page as the definition of this double. No one at the table realized this. Perhaps a footnote pointing to the comment is in order. --Jeff]

    What's your plan?


    BARRY
    I'll bid 3S: and over 4H: bid 5H: as my only try for slam. Close to passing 4H:, because of LHO's heart 'tolerance+'.

    2NT over second double should probably be scramble not Leb. Partner has already shown a weak hand.

    DAVIDW
    I want strongly to invite a slam, knowing that partner has no controls. He needs as little as  S:xx H:Qxxxx D:xx C:xxxx. The question is how to issue that invitation. No matter what I do, it will be difficult to get him excited about his hand. An additional complexity is that a "powerful" hand such as  S:xx H:Jxxx D:Qxxx C:Jxx might not be enough.

    One thought is to cuebid and then bid 5H:. The first question is whether I dare to cue-bid 3S:. There must be some chance that CHO will interpret 3S: as natural. If you think not, consider how a cunning RHO might bid with a poor hand and hearts (I know he doesn't have that this time, but can partner?) I doubt if we have discussed this auction.

    An alternative is to bid 5H: immediately. However, that ought be taken as a massive hand lacking a spade control, so partner will be sure to pass unless he has shortness there.

    I don't want to surrender with a 4H: call, although that could be the winner. So I will risk 3S:, acknowledging there really is a risk, and then follow with 5H: over any call he makes except for 3NT (over that I will pass).

    DAVIDC
    First, my plan is to agree to play Lebensohl (or some variant). Not doing so results in a "best guess" situation. (For the record, my preferred defense is to have double equal take-out of spades or big, 2H: equal take-out of hearts. You give up the cheap 2H: overcall in return for not having to deal with the ambiguity as to which suit opener has. I don't like passing initially and then backing in at the three or four level when responder preempts with a pass or correct raise.)

    But on to the problem at hand. If the first double was 15, and the second double was 18, then it would appear your best plan is to double three more times to show the strength of your hand. Seriously, you are hoping to catch something like H:Qxxxx and either distribution (for example  S:xx H:Qxxxx D:xx C:xxxx) or a stray queen. Is that odds on? What worries me just a bit is responder's bid of 2S:; that should show at least three hearts (unless he his really busted and betting that we have slam, in which case he might just screw around with a doubleton heart). Looks like a good simulation problem. I know it is futile but I am going to try to solicit partner's cooperation by bidding 3S: and following it up with 5H:.

    MIKE
    At IMPs... I think I'd bid 3NT over 3H:... that rates to be cold. Lebensohl wouldn't necessarily be helpful as  S:xx H:xxxx D:QJxx C:xxx needs only hearts to break to make 6H:. I don't know how to get partner involved... he will never properly evaluate his queens. I have to think that I'd've actually jumped to 3NT over 2S: rather than making a second double. Perhaps having done that, I should cuebid 3S: then bid 5H:. Who knows. That is just too tough.

    One factor in favor of conservatism is that RHO bid 2S: pass or correct, which greatly increases the likelihood of at least H:Qxx over there.

    ED
    3S:, then 5H:. I am a little concerned that LHO bid 2S: rather than 2H: since this indicates heart length. However, this is just too much to settle for 4H:. LHO's action will entice me to raise a 3NT bid by partner (over my 3S: bid) to 4NT.
    LEN
    Hmm. 12 controls. Something like  S:xx H:QJxx D:QJxx C:xxx makes a grand pretty good, so we have to do something (and maybe pard has five hearts...). Still, there's no way to find out if he has  S:xx H:xxxx D:xxxx C:xxx short of the five level, but that still has play. I bid RKC (4S: if available, otherwise 4NT). I'll ask for kings (haha) as a grand slam try if he shows H:Q.
    MARSHALL
    3S: followed by a minimum bid in hearts.
    BOBBY
    These are always hard hands. Lebensohl would have helped somewhat here. First, I haven't forced partner to bid a 3-card heart suit (obvious, but worth mentioning). The three likely contracts, 4H:, 6H:, 6NT, will likely all have some amount of play. Given that I don't have a good bid for this hand, I think [3S: followed by] 5H: is probably the best bid — I've just invited partner to bid a slam knowing that he might have nothing, so perhaps he'll figure out that a little is enough.
    DAVIDM
    Well, one problem here is that bidding 2S: pass or correct generally implies at least 4 hearts (at least that is the way that my partner and I play Multi) so the bad break may scuttle any slam. [Welcome to Denver. We had that auction twice and neither time did responder have more than three small hearts. --Jeff] Still, not often you get a hand with 12 controls and a fit for partner (or have a partner with a fit for you). My plan is to first cue bid 3S: and then, assuming partner bids the expected 4H:, is to bid 5H:. I hope that this sequence will be taken as a general have you got anything slam try (the cue bid saying I am not interested in a spade control) with a big hand. I think an immediate 5H: in this auction would ask about a spade control. Of course if at any time the opponents bid again in front of me. I will double and take what I can get.
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    3NT.
    WINNING ACTION
    Probably 3S: followed by 5H: is good enough. Partner held  S:Qx H:Qxxxx D:Jxxx C:xx. 6NT rolls. On the other hand, it's not a slam dunk that partner will move over 5H:. After all, he has no aces, no kings, no singletons, and no voids. Edgar Kaplan said that means he has nothing. This time, he has four tricks. Wow. Probably he should move, but partners don't visualized 28-counts.
    CONSENSUS
    PlanVotes
    3S:...5H:6
    3S:...4H:1
    3NT2
    4NT1
    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    No one considered this, but after I'd been thinking about it a while, the answer to this problem eventually came to me. The second double was the problem. Despite it's not being in the ACBL notes (which are really not adequate), I should have bid 4NT on my second turn. That has to show a balanced moose, which is the best way to get partner to evaluate correctly his balanced controll-less five-count. Any sort of suit auction may convince him that his total lack of controls is not useful, but if I show 28 balanced or thereabouts, he ought to be able to figure out what to do with a 5-count. Here, he'd probably hedge with 5NT, but I'd know to go on. Probably he ought to bid 6H:.

    Several mentioned that responder should have hearts for 2S:. I have learned that this is not so. In Denver, we had this auction twice. Once responder had three small hearts, and once he had a small doubleton and a stiff spade. One can't count on his having hearts.

    I think it's unforgivable that the ACBL defense doesn't mention what 2NT means in response to the second double. Then I checked mine. It doesn't either. Whoops. It's Lebensohl now.

  2. None vul, MPs

     S:x H:x D:AKQxxx C:AQxxx

    RHO opens 1H:. And you?


    BARRY
    My plan is 2D:, then at my next turn 4NT rather than 5C:. Facing, e.g. 2-3, diamonds retains control. If I play 2D: I hope to make it!
    DAVIDW
    I will start with 2NT, hoping to hear a voluntary call from CHO after LHO bids a major. If it goes 3M (or the equivalent) by LHO, 4m by partner, I will cue bid 4H:. If CHO meekly shuts up, I will bid at the 4 level myself (including 4NT if that if the cheapest possibility at that time). My plan is to try to play 5 of our minor.

    If the auction really heats up, I will go as far as 6m if CHO has chimed in. I hope to be able to tell what to lead against their 6H:.

    DAVIDC
    2D:. I still don't believe that this is the right strength for 2NT and the inequality in the suits favors bidding where you live. At this point, I am thinking this is our hand and 3NT may be a simple and makeable spot. Bidding 2NT may not get you to 3NT opposite  S:JTxx H:AKx D:Jxx C:xxx (and it sure won't if LHO finds a bid). But I went -1460 on this hand (I am pretty sure the vulnerability was favorable [Nope. --Jeff])), so what do I know?
    MIKE
    I think it is reasonable to bid 2D: planning on bidding 5C: (4NT would be 7-5?) next to get the suit discrepency right, but it is slightly better to bid 2NT planning on bidding 4D: if available (best if it is a jump) next, but doubling otherwise. This gets both suits in and allows us to defend when partner doesn't fit well. Sometimes partner will get the decision wrong due to the extra strong, long diamonds, but I'm not so far off as to what that shows and at least I'm getting some input from across the table.
    ED
    2NT. I will bid to 4D: pushed or not, e.g., (1H)-2NT-(P)-3C:, (P)-4D: or (1H:)-2NT-(3H:)-P, (P)-4D:
    LEN
    2D:
    KENT
    2D:. The more I look at bidding 2NT, 4NT, or 4H: to show minors, [4H: doesn't show the minors. It shows a very good 4S: overcall. --Jeff] the less equal my suits look. One problem with 2D: is that I may play it there when we're cold for 6C: opposite king-fourth of clubs and an ace. The major suit shortness suggests that I'll have another chance to bid, and I'm comfortable bidding 5C: over 4H: on the next round.
    MARSHALL
    2NT followed by 3D: over 3C:, or 4D: over 3D:.
    BOBBY
    Dave posted this problem already, but later in the auction, so I'm not sure I can give an unbiased answer. However, if your methods allow for 2NT to show a strong hand, then surely this hand fits the definition, and I think that's what I would bid. I think 2D: is a reasonable bid as well, though. On Dave's auction I think 5C: should have clued partner in to the double fit.
    DAVIDM
    My personal feeling is that the unusual 2NT overcall is one of the most abused conventions in bridge (right after Blackwood). People do it on any 5-5 at any strength and then wonder when the opponent plays double dummy to make a difficult major suit game contract. However, this hand certainly meets my requirements for the bid (enough strength and/or distribution to ensure that you will declare at least 67% of the time you have a fit). So I will start with 2NT. If partner bids 3C:, I will continue with a 4D: call, which should describe a hand that looks something like this one. If that happens, maybe partner can cue bid a major suit Ace and we get to slam.

    If I start with 2D:, I may have a major guess on the next round on whether or not to introduce clubs. In any case, after 2NT I will next bid 4D: if available, or if the opponents are in 4 of a major by then, 4NT. I am not going to let the opponents play undoubled below the 5 level.

    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    Wasn't there. I think 2NT is so clear that 2D: is a significant error. My partner bid 4NT, which I don't like; the offense to defense ratio not high enough for 4NT.
    WINNING ACTION
    Probably 2NT. Partner has  S:xxx H:x D:xxxx C:xxxxx. 4NT would have worked, but partner doubled 6H: in front of me, convincing me not to save. One of my rules is never to pull partner's penalty double to a minus score at matchpoints. -1310. Oh, well. Ought I have pulled on this auction:
    LHOCHORHOMe
    1H: 4NT 5H: 6C:
    6H: Dbl Pass?
    I played my partner for something like  S:H:AK D:KJ10xx C:QJ10xxx. Maybe that's dreaming. We had no reason to believe that anyone had a void, though, so partner's double with his two aces seems logical. If I'd bid 5NT instead of 6C:, what would that have meant? Seems like it ought to be a grand slam try with two useful cards in partner's suits, say  S:xxx H:xxx D:Q10x C:Axxx.

    If you overcall 2NT, partner will save and save and save until you double them. With luck, that won't be until the 7-level, though that depends on how the auction times out and whether responder can cue-bid diamonds (he had a void) along the way.

    CONSENSUS
    ActionVotes
    2D:4
    2NT7
    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    I think 2D: is an abomination. I don't buy the nonsense that the suits are substantially different, so you want to make a fine distinction between them so that you can play the best minor-suit fit. That's seeing things through rose-colored glasses. You have two major-suit stiffs. Clubs vs. diamonds is a very minor part of the problem. The real problem is how high to bid when the bad guys bid a lot in their majors. 2NT gets partner into the game a lot faster than 2D: does, and therefore will elicit some help. "Listening to the opponents' auction," is nowhere near as useful as "listening to partner's auction." I'd rather trust him than them; he's on our side.

  3. None vul, IMPs, short matches

     S:AQxxx H:Ax D:AQxx C:xx

    CHO RHO You LHO
    Pass1NT*Dbl 2C:*
    PassPass2S: Pass
    3S: Pass?

    1NT = 12-14
    2C: = clubs and another suit


    BARRY
    Pass; some finesses might be right I agree but partner had 3C: cue available and did not make it. I have the values I suggested and my only plus is 5422 shape. Yes some six-counts give me good play for game (but with a tad more shape than  S:Kxxx H:xxx D:Kxx C:xxx partner might cue-bid. And yes  S:Kxx H:xxx D:Kxxx C:xxx is just unlucky. We might not reach game if they stayed out of things.)
    DAVIDW
    At IMPS, how can I afford even to think about this? I must bid 4S:. Nobody forced CHO to raise.

    He needs as little as  S:Kxx H:xxx D:Kxxx C:xxx, and I expect more than that. I would bid 4S: even at match points, because I think it is likely to make — but in that form of the game there would at least be some unfavorable possibilities to think about. If LHO's suits are the minors, my game might fail — but why should that be the case when my short suits are likely to be his long suits?

    DAVIDC
    Pass. Close. But I think I have bid my hand. If it were a hot game, I might take the plunge but at white I am going to try and score 140. Had my RHO opened 1X, I would have overcalled 1S: and made an invite if partner raised to 2. Here, partner should have the values for a 1S:-2S: raise (but could easily be on the low end of that) and I have to guess.
    MIKE
    This has better offensive potential than a minimum double. Does it have better potential than a minimum 2S: bid? Partner should have less than an ace and a king... probably just a smattering of quacky things accounting to about seven... and probably exactly three spades (no cuebid within that range). Say  S:Jxx H:Q10xx D:Kxx C:Qxx... game would be poor. Anything more and game is alright. I pass.
    ED
    Close decision. I have reasonable distribution (AQxx side suit very good, 2-2 rather than 3-1 bad), little extra in HCP but my HCP are outstanding, my queens are likely to be winners and there may be some suits that are not splitting.

    If we have no agreements, I bid 4S:. If I was forced to act over 2C:, I bid 4S:. If passing 2C: was an option, then I pass since I would then not have much extra for my 2S: bid.

    LEN
    Game has play opposite  S:KJxx H:xxx D:xx C:xxxx, so I bid 4S:. I guess I could bid 4D:, lead directing for a 5C: save, but I'm not sure I want partner to be captain.
    KENT
    Pass. I think partner has around a 6-8 count and is giving me a chance in case I'm a king stronger. This hand strikes me as not much above minimum for the 2S: call. As partner is a passed hand, a decent 9 to 11 with a fit warrants 3C: here; he has less than that.
    MARSHALL
    4S:
    BOBBY
    I like my hand: 4S:.
    DAVIDM
    I am going to bid the 4th spade at IMPs.
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    Pass.
    WINNING ACTION
    4S:. Partner had  S:J108 H:J10xx D:K9x C:Axx.
    CONSENSUS
    ActionVotes
    Pass5
    4S:6
    Was Partner's Bidding Adequate?
    BARRY
    Dear oh dear. 3S:?? Closer to a slam try! 3C:-3D:-4S: looks automatic. 3S: is a fine bid but not on this hand.
    ED
    Advancer's 3S: bid is an underbid. He should bid 4S:.
    MIKE
    This sounds like a joke. When partner doubled 1NT you knew you were bidding game or defending doubled. I would have doubled 2C: planning on leading trumps, which looks not best on this hand. Failing that, I'd cuebid 3C: and if partner signed out in 3S:, I'd bid 3NT. It is too good and too NTy for 4S:.
    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    I think the decision whether to bid on really does depend on agreements. What is the minimum for a double? I think it's generally a strong NT, but a decent 14-count with a clear lead ought to double. Others play that double starts around 16. Some play any 14. Are we in a force after the double, and does partner's pass show anything? I think it's best to play that partner's pass shows a little something, though it's reasonable with a balanced Yarborough to pass. With any shape, one should use the pass and pull schema; to bid immediately shows garbage and removes the force, and to pass and then bid a suit shows some values, say a good 4 or 5-count at least. There are those who argue that with a balanced Yarb (particularly at matchpoints), gambling that partner has 1NT beaten in hand is a losing proposition, so they bid immediately. Their pass therefore promises something useful. With no suit to bid, they bid an artificial 2C: for takeout. There is something to be said for this agreement, though less at IMPs than at MPs, as -180 may not be a disaster at IMPs. It is, of course, a zero at matchpoints, so risking -800 is worthwhile to avoid a known zero.

    In this case, I agree with the panel that partner should not have just invited. He has a 9-count vs. a putative strong NT. With the cards placed well, we have to bid game. Catering to my holding a queen less is cutting it too fine, and is probably misdirected anyway—with a minimum double and five spades, I'm likely to bid my suit instead of doubling.

    Regardless of partner's decision, I think my choice whether to bid or pass is extremely close and an interesting problem.


Jeff Goldsmith, jeff@gg.caltech.edu, Dec 21, 2005