Not Those Clubs Again...

Always it's clubs. Where is Rev E S Bulcon when you need him?

Today's Panelists: Chris Willenken, Mike Shuster, Len Vishnevsky, Floyd McWilliams, David Caprera, Barry Rigal, David Weiss, Josh Donn, John Jones

All at IMPs, short matches
  1. Both red

     S:x H:KQ9xx D:J109xx C:xx

    PartnerYou
    1S:1NT
    2C:?


    CHRIS
    2H:. This one seems easy, as hearts is better for both partscore and game purposes.
    MIKE
    Most people on this panel play some form of Bart (I know you don't think it is called Bart, but Stayman didn't invent that convention...and Les Bart did take credit for Bart when last I played him). If not playing Bart, I bid 2H:, where the upside is greater. If I am, then 2D:.

    [Oh, I know it IS called "Bart," but I'm not convinced that it OUGHT to be called "Bart." I did a little research on the convention once. The earliest written note of it I could find was in the 60s. It was then attributed to Bobby Lipsitz. I'm pretty confident, however, that Les Bart is responsible for the idea that if one is playing 2D: artificial here that it might be profitable to rebid 2C: on 5332 in order to use the gadget. In any case, there are several versions of the convention, and all are called Bart these days. I call the 2D: bid without the effect on 2C: "the 2D: gadget" so that there is no presumption that 2C: can be based on a doubleton without further discussion. There is danger that some will assume that otherwise. --Jeff]

    LEN
    2H:. If we belong in a partscore, I have to guess a red suit. If we belong in game it will be in hearts, most likely. With  S:Axxxx H:AJx D:x C:AKxx he might pass 2D: but raise 2H:.
    FLOYD
    2H:
    DAVIDC
    2H:. I'm not a fan of Bart anyway.
    BARRY
    2H: (or 2D: if playing Bart). Might as well try to get to a better spot than a 3-2 club fit.
    DAVIDW
    2H:. My partner has  S:Axxxx H:Axx D:x C:AKxx. Even if he's dumb enough to have  S:Axxxx H:x D:Axx C:AKxx, I can make 2H:. Dare he have less?
    JOSH
    2H:. The version of Bart that I prefer deals with this hand well. I reverse the normal conventional meanings of 2D: and 2H: essentially, so 2D: begins absolute signoffs in hearts as well as the non-heart hand types, whereas 2H: shows 5 (or 6 bad) hearts with another place to play, nominally 25 in the majors, but could be x5x4 or x55x. Bidding 2H: in that sense with an eye on running to 3D: if partner doesn't pass seems ideal, not perfect I admit (he could be a weak 6115 or something) but I like the odds, and you get somewhere reasonable when he is on everyday 5(13)4 hands. In any case, vul at IMPs, there is surely no bid but 2H:. There aren't many hands that make game opposite this, but the ones that do are in hearts, not diamonds. 2H: also leaves room to bid 3D: if partner continues 2NT, though it's debatable whether or not you should. I would.
    JJ
    2D: assuming Bart, It looks as though my choices are pass, 2D:, 2H:, 2S: and all of them might work out on a given hand. However, if 2D: is Bart, it looks as though I might well be able to bid 2D: and pass the response and land on my feet a fair amount of time. I'll try 2D: if that's what it means, otherwise I'll try 2H:.
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    2H:
    WINNING ACTION
    2D:. Partner held  S:K109xx H:D:Kxx C:KQ109x. Over my 2H:, partner bid 3C: (?), and, luckily for us, no one doubled.
    CONSENSUS
    ActionVotes
    2D: Bart3
    2H:6
    2H: Reverse Bart1

    I'd've bid 2D: if it were artificial, too, so this is more or less a 50/50 vote despite this' being the worst problem of the set.

    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    At first, I thought this was going to be a bad problem; I was expecting folks to talk about their 2D: gadget methods and whether they were willing to bid 3D: somehow, and it turned out that they didn't do that.

    After getting a bunch of answers, though, I see that about half would use some version of Bart, and half would bid 2H:.

    Partner thought bidding 2D: natural was the right choice. I think that's wrong, but not for the same reason as most of the panel. They mostly think about the upside of 2H:, reaching game. That's wildly optimistic. If we had  S:x H:KQ10xx D:KJ10xx C:xx, then it makes plenty of sense to think about game, but this is a six-count. If we can make game, partner will definitely bid again no matter what we do. Much more likely is that we are in deep doo-doo and our goal is to get the smallest minus possible. The reason I like 2H: is that I have a stopper. My plan is to try to score my low trumps by ruffing; in 2D:, the bad guys will be able to draw three rounds of trump. In 2H:, they'll be able to draw fewer, possibly none without giving me a trick. Imagine that partner has either  S:AKxxx H:x D:xx C:Axxxx or  S:Axxxx H:xx D:x C:AKxxx and I pick the "wrong" red suit. 2H: rates to survive; 2D: is getting mutilated.


  2. favorable

     S:AKJ H:Axxx D:Axxx C:Qx

    RHO You LHO CHO
    Pass1D: 1H: 5D:
    6C:! ?

    If you double, 6C:x becomes the final contract. Find a lead.


    CHRIS
    H:A. Looks like I may be able to give partner a few ruffs. Who knows? Declarer could be double void with this the only lead to go plus. Or, I may be able to shift to a spade and find out for sure if partner is ruffing the second round of hearts.
    MIKE
    Sounds like RHO was walking the dog with some sort of gangsploid hand. Can he be void in spades? Partner could certainly be 5-7 in the pointies, but even then LHO would have to have a five card spade suit. I really don't know what is going on, but I think I'd double and lead a high spade. Pass isn't forcing, so what else is there?
    LEN
    Double. S:K.
    FLOYD
    I double and lead ... a trump. The only explanation I can think of for RHO's bid is that he has diamond length and is visualizing ruffs in dummy — something like  S:H:Kx D:xxx C:Axxxxxxx? Hmm, maybe I shouldn't double.
    DAVIDC
    How can I not double? S:K
    BARRY
    Dbl — and hope to beat it. Small club — how can this be wrong — I'll find out! (Declarer is 5-7 and dummy has 1 spade?)
    DAVIDW
    After checking the backs, I would double. I lead my low club.
    JOSH
    Abstain, I know the hand. Besides, now I want to go back and open 1C: However, though I answered hastily as we were leaving the tournament, the double and club lead are totally clear after any sort of thought about the hand (where are your tricks going?) The only question is which club to lead, and I think the Q is more likely to be right than wrong, assuming it matters at all.
    JJ
    Double and lead S:K I'll bite. Who is the joker that bid 6C:? I'd like to be there at the table for this one. If this is being given as a problem, doubling and leading the S:K may not have worked out well. It's probably the most normal action though. What a sequence!?!?!?
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    wasn't there. Partner doubled and led a high spade. I was so surprised that partner didn't lead a trump, I had to yank back my wrist, as I pulled out my trump without noticing for a second that he had not led one.
    CONSENSUS
    Everyone doubles, of course.

    ActionVotes
    H:A1
    C:x4
    S:K4

    WINNING ACTION
    double and lead trump. (Isn't it always? Long ago, in a Spingold match against Mark Jacobus, at our table, the winning action on a huge number of hands was to double and lead trump. (Maybe we bid too much. Nah!) Mark found these actions consistently. Since then, I've called doubling and leading trump "The Jacobus Convention.")

    The whole hand was
    S: x
    H: KQJ109xx
    D: Qx
    C: Kxx
    S: AKJ
    H: Axxx
    D: Axxx
    C: Qx
    S: 10xx
    H: xx
    D: KJ10xxx
    C: x
    S: Qxxxxx
    H:
    D:
    C: AJ10xxxx

    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    This isn't a judgment problem, but a puzzle problem. The trump lead is clear cut once you think of it, but most players won't. The reasoning is straightforward. RHO has announced a freak hand. We don't know what kind of freak (either a black two-suiter or long clubs with side spades seems most likely, but we can't be sure) but against freaks, it's usually right to lead trump. Also, our tricks are aces. Where are they going? If they don't get ruffed, we'll take them eventually. So lead a trump, reducing the chance that our aces will be ruffed in dummy.

    An interesting question is "which trump?" If the clubs are 2038 around the table with partner's having Jxx or K10x, leading the C:Q is right. If they are 2227 and partner has Jx, leading low may generate a trump trick out of nowhere. Neither of those seem real likely. It is possible that partner has stiff king (also unlikely), so leading low has two ways to win. All in all, I think the small trump is a big favorite over the queen, so that's my choice.


  3. Both vul (Maybe YOU are Bulcon?)

     S:K9xx H:J10xxx D:AJ10x C:

    CHO RHO You LHO
    1D: 2C: Dbl 2H:
    Pass2S: 3D: 5C:
    PassPassPass

    What do you lead?


    CHRIS
    Low heart. Unwilling to underlead in diamonds for a trump play, but the diamond ace might burn our transportation or set up a trick for declarer. It seems unlikely that we need to cash the diamond ace; dummy is overwhelmingly likely to have short diamonds, so a diamond lead is probably only necessary if declarer holds 4-1-2-6 with partner holding the ace of spades, no high heart honor, and no high club.
    MIKE
    I don't get any awards for agressive bidding here. Partner couldn't double 5C:, so I'll let them lead instead. I bid 5D:. (I'd've bid 4D: last time). This could go horribly wrong, but at least I won't blow a trick on opening lead. [I'm surprised that Mike was the only one to suggest that 3D: was a tad pusillanimous. --Jeff]
    LEN
    D:A. I might try D:J at the table, if I felt lucky.
    FLOYD
    Not a trump. I want to lead a diamond but either the jack or the ace could blow a trick. I start with a low heart, which is unlikely to lose a trick double dummy though partner may not get it right.
    DAVIDC
    The auction screams for a trump lead. I am so tempted to underlead my D:A so that partner can put trump on the table but I don't have the guts so I am going to lead the pedestrian D:A. No, scratch that. I am leading the D:2. Am I a man or a mouse?
    BARRY
    D:A. I'm a sucker.
    DAVIDW
    I lead a low spade, which can't blow more than a tempo. The alternative, the diamond ace, could conceivably blow both a trick and a tempo. Since partner opened, I expect to beat this if I do no more than one bad thing with my lead.
    JOSH
    D:A. I considered the low diamond so we can get a trump on the table pronto, but think I have no reason to be confident enough in this contract making to justify such a risk. A heart takes too big of a chance of our diamond(s) going away.
    JJ
    I admit that I would have avoided leading by biding 5D:. That must be way off on the actual layout because it wasn't given as a choice, but it looks what I would do. Given that I pass, I think the best lead is probably the D:10. It looks as though pard will need to lead trumps and underleading the D:A may be the best way to get him in. I think the 10 will get pard to go right more often than the J will.
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    wasn't there. Partner led his small heart. I'd've led the D:10. I'm with Mike on the bidding; I'd've bid 4D:, not 3D:. Having done so, I'd pass 5C:. Here, I have no idea whether to bid 5D: or pass 5C:.
    CONSENSUS
    ActionVotes
    D:A3
    Lower D:3
    H:x2
    S:x1
    Bid 5D:2
    WINNING ACTION
    Very likely the D:J, probably a smaller diamond, possibly the D:A, no chance anything else. The whole layout:
    S: x
    H: AKQxx
    D: xxx
    C: QJ108
    S: K9xx
    H: J10xxx
    D: AJ10x
    C:
    S: A10x
    H: xx
    D: KQxxx
    C: Kxx
    S: QJ8xx
    H: x
    D: x
    C: A97xxx
    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    I think the right lead is the D:10, more or less for JJ's reasons. I want partner to overtake and play trumps. He might not overtake the D:J, but he'll have no choice if I lead the D:10.

    The low diamond lead works on this hand for a strange reason. Partner wins and probably plays another diamond (all that work for nothing!) Declarer crosses to the H:A and plays a spade. Partner ducks (I was ready) and the S:Q loses to the S:K. We exit with something and declarer ruffs a spade in dummy. When my S:10 falls, declarer has a guess whether I have S:109x or S:A10x. I've "shown up" with D:AKQ and the C:K by now, so if I had the S:A, I'd have 16 HCP balanced and would have opened 1NT. That opening leader didn't lead a spade isn't a big clue; after all, declarer bid them. Leading our suit is normal. If declarer misguesses spades, he'll go down one. Some might think that it's awfully ingenuous for declarer to believe that RHO is showing him the D:AKQ for free, but without any plan, not everyone would lie to partner to fool declarer. And even tricky players don't always falsecard. I'm not Papa!

    The reason a middle diamond is more likely to work than the small one is that on a couple rounds of trumps or diamonds at some point we are going to have to discard a diamond or two. If we lead the small diamond and discard or play the jack and ten, declarer might wonder. If we lead the jack and play or discard the 10 and the small one, everything looks normal. Even the 10 lead followed by the other two small ones makes sense when we show out of trumps, though there's more of presumption that once I've done something odd, maybe I have underled an ace. Fortunately, I don't play jack denies leads!


  4. unfavorable (wrong void this time)

     S:KQJ98xx H:AKxxx D:C:x

    RHO You LHO CHO
    1D: 2D: Dbl 2H:
    3C: 4S: 6C: Pass
    Pass?

    2D: showed the majors. They have no idea what Dbl meant.

    a) do you agree with your bidding so far?


    CHRIS
    Auction looks fine to this point.
    MIKE
    Bidding is fine.
    LEN
    Sure.
    FLOYD
    No. What's the point of showing majors if I'm going to shut out hearts on the next round? I should have overcalled 1S:, or bid 2D: then 3S:. [Floyd thinks 3S: here is forcing. I'm not convinced. It'd be nice if it were. If it had been a jump (say if RHO hadn't bid 3C:), then it would be. Which would have been perfect. --Jeff]
    DAVIDC
    No. Catch partner with x, xx in the majors and you sure don't want to play hearts. You have spades. [Overcall 1S:.]
    BARRY
    Bidding OK.
    DAVIDW
    I don't much like my bidding. I would have started with 1S:, hoping to hear something voluntary from partner along the road.
    JOSH
    The bidding is OK, though the auction has been a bit unlucky. If the opponents had been just a little less pesky you would have had easy continuations to bid this hand scientifically.
    JJ
    No, I prefer 1S: to 2D:, I like the knowledge I get from starting hands like this slowly. (Yes, once I have heard it go all pass when I tried a minimum overcall on a hand like this, but once over 30 years isn't much). [I like the knowledge that partner gets when I describe my hand and involve him in the final decision better than just listening. --Jeff]
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    That's how I bid it, and I like it.
    CONSENSUS
    ActionVotes
    1S:4
    2D:6
    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    I think this one is clear cut, too, though the 1S: bidders feel more strongly than the 2D: bidders. The issue on the hand is one of showing vs. listening. Since I think I can show my hand pretty well via 2D: followed by 4S:, getting partner involved is a good thing. I was really hoping that I could jump to 3S: after a 2H: preference; I think that's forcing. (Partner'd pass anyway with  S:xx H:xx D:xxxx C:xxxxx I suspect.) On this hand, my route should have been a winner; partner should have doubled 6C:. I'd then lead the S:K and we'd have four easy tricks.

    One problem with 1S: is that it is really just burying hearts. You do get to hear partner's enthusiasm for spades (imagine that he held dummy's hand, for example. See below.) which is a plus. The problem is that you'll pretty much never be able to bid hearts naturally and make it forcing. To jump to 4H: overstates how much you are willing to play hearts, and there isn't a 3-bid sequence you can follow without seriously risking missing game. (You can cue bid, but that won't really help very often.) If we need to play hearts, 1S: is not the way to get there. If we need partner to be involved in a high- level auction, 1S: pretty much buries him, too.

    Folks who like bidding 1S: I think are planning to make the decisions for their side. If partner can be trusted, getting him involved is a big plus on a hand like this. The "standard" Michaels abuse is the way to do it. It's not close.


    b) what now?

    CHRIS
    I can't really bid now as partner has a much better idea of my hand than I do of his. [...which is why we took this route in the first place! --Jeff]
    MIKE
    I'd pass.
    LEN
    Double.
    FLOYD
    Double, so that I can ...
    DAVIDC
    Double to alert partner.
    BARRY
    I pass.
    DAVIDW
    Now I don't know what to do. I could try to be a hero, passing and leading a low heart. Or I could try a down-the-middle lead, either a high heart or high spade. The safest thing is probably to bid 6H and make the problem someone else's. That would be my choice. I've probably described the 2-card disparity fairly well; my concern is that LHO's early double and RHO's distribution might imply we'll get bruised (if partner has something like  S:xx H:xxx D:Jxxxxx C:xx). I'm pretty confident that LHO has the S:A; I don't know how good partner's hearts are. The current problem is directly traceable to the Michaels bid, which left me guessing.
    JOSH
    Scary. It's tempting to take out slam insurance, but this is the wrong vulnerability for it, even if it's right I could still be going for 800 which is too small of an upside. Double is clearly out, this auction isn't forcing and I haven't the slightest reason to believe they are going down. I have shown essentially what I hold already, so there is no reason to do anything.
    JJ
    abstain — I really need to be at the table for this one. I might defend, and I might bid. My batting average at the table in these types of auctions is much, much higher than guesses without being there. I'd be much more likely to bid, but I might defend also. Having bid 1S:, I might get a much better feel for how confident the opps are.
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    Pass
    CONSENSUS
    ActionVotes
    Pass5
    Double3
    6H:1
    WINNING ACTION
    Double
    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    Passing still seems right. I've shown my hand. To double is to accuse either partner or LHO of losing contact with the auction. This time it was both, but there's no reason to expect that.

    c) if you pass or double, what do you lead?
    CHRIS
    I won't gamble with an underlead in a preempted auction against opponents who may be having an accident. H:K.
    MIKE
    I lead the H:K. Spades can't really be 2-2-2 around the table. A low heart is silly.
    LEN
    H:K.
    FLOYD
    lead a non-systemic low heart, just like in the movies.
    DAVIDC
    Having underled once already, I need to know if it worked. If it did, then I will do it again. If it didn't then I am leading the H:K. [We don't know for sure, but suspect it'd work. --Jeff]
    BARRY
    H:A. More ways for a spade to be wrong... I think. And a low heart is for superheroes.
    JOSH
    Heart king, asking for count. I don't try the low heart lead on these any more unless I'm sure it's the only chance. To find out why, http://web2.acbl.org/nabcbulletins/2002summer/db9.pdf, page 4 "Whistles and Bells Started Ringing". I know we have all been there, but we haven't all had articles written about it.
    JJ
    The mundane H:K.
    JEFF AT THE TABLE
    small heart
    CONSENSUS
    ActionVotes
    H: honor7
    Small H:3
    WINNING ACTION
    S:K. The whole hand was
    S: A10xx
    H: Qxxx
    D: 10
    C: AJ10x
    S: KQJ98xx
    H: AKxxx
    D:
    C: x
    S:
    H: J10xx
    D: Qxxxxx
    C: Kxx
    S: xx
    H:
    D: AKJxxx
    C: Q98xx
    I don't know the dispostion of the diamond spots. In practice, declarer went down three on my small heart lead. It didn't occur to declarer to put up the H:Q. Partner put in the ten (bastard! Norman Kay would play the jack so that I'd know my underlead didn't blow a trick that much earlier), but declarer ruffed it. She didn't judge her way well after that.

    The S:K lead leads to four obvious tricks.

    JEFF UPON REFLECTION
    OK, the H:K it is. The opponents haven't had an intelligent auction to 6C:. In particular, it's likely that dummy does not have heart control, so we might well be cashing two hearts. The underlead is unnecessarily aggressive. That the high heart gets ruffed is a big surprise; partner won't have four hearts very often and bid only 2H:.

    The actual result has nothing to do with the problem. Partner's 2H: bid was quite strange, and his failure to double 6C: was absurd. So that the winning lead and the likely best lead aren't the same is not surprising.

    I wasn't really considering that anyone would lead the S:K. I was wondering how many would underlead the H:AK. I almost never underlead aces, and here are two hands in one day on which I'd seriously consider it. On the third lead problem, I'd lead a low trump from Qx! Maybe I'm trying to be too clever as I get older!



Jeff Goldsmith, jeff@gg.caltech.edu, Oct 27, 2005